Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

03/28/2008 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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+ HB 149 POLLUTANT DISCHARGE PERMITS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 149(RES) Out of Committee
+ HB 286 IMPERSONATING A PUBLIC SERVANT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 183 REPEAL DEFINED CONTRIB RETIREMENT PLANS
Moved CSSB 183(JUD) Out of Committee
             HB 286-IMPERSONATING A PUBLIC SERVANT                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH announced the consideration of HB 286.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER BAXTER,  Staff to  Representative Nancy  Dahlstrom, said                                                               
HB  286 makes  it a  class C  felony for  impersonating a  public                                                               
servant  in the  first degree.  A  person commits  this crime  by                                                               
violating  AS 11.56.830  by  pretending to  be  a peace  officer.                                                               
Currently it is  a class B misdemeanor to  impersonate any public                                                               
servant.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
This  bill targets  those who  intend  to harm  an individual  or                                                               
group while  appearing as  a person  whose job  it is  to protect                                                               
others and  uphold the  law. Class  B misdemeanors  usually bring                                                               
little  or no  jail  time  unless the  person  has a  significant                                                               
criminal  history. HB  286  will  add teeth  to  existing law  by                                                               
providing law  enforcement agencies  with another tool.  The bill                                                               
serves  as a  strong deterrent  for those  who deliberately  make                                                               
choices that put families, neighbors and communities at risk.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
JEFF LANDVATTER  Alaska State  Trooper and  member of  PSEA, said                                                               
being a police officer is  about trust. Society places high value                                                               
on a  police officer  and you  know you can  trust them.  So when                                                               
someone pretends  to be  a police officer  it breaks  that public                                                               
trust.  What better  way to  strike terror  in the  community, he                                                               
said.  The legislature  needs to  send a  clear message  that the                                                               
State  of  Alaska  will  not   tolerate  impersonating  a  police                                                               
officer.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  Trooper  Landvatter   if  he  has  personal                                                               
experience with people who have impersonated a police officer.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER  LANDVATTER  described  a  situation in  Juneau  where  a                                                               
person  bought  a surplus  police  car  and  set  it up  to  look                                                               
authentic. He doesn't know if  the person tried to impersonate an                                                               
officer, but  he clearly tried  to imitate  a police car.  He has                                                               
heard  of  other situations  in  Wasilla  where someone  actually                                                               
pulled someone over.  In the lower 48 people have  been raped and                                                               
murdered by  someone impersonating  a police  officer and  it's a                                                               
concern that it could happen in  this state. This is a preemptive                                                               
law to protect Alaska, he said.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked if the  bogus police car was actually operated                                                               
on the highway in Juneau.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER LANDVATTER  replied that he  saw it being driven,  but he                                                               
doesn't know  if the person  tried to exercise authority  to pull                                                               
someone over.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked if he's ever come across a "cop wannabe."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER LANDVATTER said yes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked if that's part of the phenomenon here.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER LANDVATTER  said to  a certain extent  that might  be the                                                               
case.  Becoming  a  trooper  or police  officer  is  a  difficult                                                               
process and some  people simply aren't able to  attain that goal.                                                               
A certain  number of  those people end  up hanging  around police                                                               
officers and  some become  volunteers and  ride with  officers to                                                               
feel part of the  action. Some also take it to  the next step and                                                               
do something on their own.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:39:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH said  that's an  important line  to cross  and he's                                                               
been puzzling  with that  here because laying  a felony  crime on                                                               
someone  is a  very  serious thing  to do.  If  someone tries  to                                                               
exercise the authority  of being an officer he's  willing to stop                                                               
the  person with  a harsh  measure, but  if someone  does nothing                                                               
more than drive  a car that looks  like a police car,  it may not                                                               
be  right but  he's not  sure it's  a felony.  He said  he's been                                                               
puzzling  with  how  to  suss  out that  difference  and  has  an                                                               
amendment to offer.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER LANDVATTER  pointed out  that it's the  same as  a person                                                               
who  puts on  a uniform  and  walks down  the street.  He or  she                                                               
hasn't taken any  action, but people are drawn to  the uniform or                                                               
the police car as a place of safety or a place to get help.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:40:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS relayed a personal  experience and asked if a kid                                                               
who  speeds  around in  his  dad's  trooper vehicle  with  lights                                                               
flashing would violate this law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TROOPER  LANDVATTER  responded that  the  kid  would be  using  a                                                               
patrol  car without  authorization  to drive  too  fast so  other                                                               
elements  of the  law could  be  used in  a prosecution.  Pulling                                                               
someone over elevates the act  to the next level of impersonating                                                               
an officer. Those are two different things.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:42:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE suggested  that the  underlying statute  is poorly                                                               
written and perhaps  it should be reviewed. For  example, page 1,                                                               
line  6, talks  about pretending  to be  a police  officer, which                                                               
doesn't provide much  detail and page 1, lines  10-12, talk about                                                               
any act  related to pretending to  be a public servant,  which is                                                               
very broad.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  asked if  undercover agents  are  used on  his police  force                                                               
because  that  could  be  a  place  for  real  mischief.  Trooper                                                               
Landvatter replied in  the affirmative. She then  asked how often                                                               
citizen  arrests  occur  and  if this  might  be  interpreted  as                                                               
impersonating a police officer.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
TROOPER LANDVATTER  replied those  don't happen that  often; most                                                               
of the time it's in a shoplifting situation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  commented  that  all the  bills  today  have                                                               
strange  ties. He  highlighted an  issue from  several years  ago                                                               
when  the   citizens  of  the  sovereign   nation  of  Chickaloon                                                               
purchased a  vehicle and began  pulling people over on  the Glenn                                                               
Highway and  issuing traffic tickets. He  questioned whether that                                                               
act would be impersonating a police officer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
TROOPER  LANDVATTER clarified  that he  isn't an  expert on  this                                                               
law,  but  his opinion  is  that  if  they're operating  under  a                                                               
community  or  municipality  then  they  have  the  authority  to                                                               
enforce local ordinances.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS   GIFFORD,  Vice   President,   Juneau  Police   Department                                                               
Employees  Association (JPDEA)  and member  of the  Public Safety                                                               
Employees Association (PSEA) stated support  for HB 286 making it                                                               
a felony  crime to impersonate  a police officer.  Everyday brave                                                               
men and  women take  an oath  to protect and  serve the  state or                                                               
community they  work for, he  said. They are expected  to enforce                                                               
laws, perform  traffic stops, promote  highway safety,  fight the                                                               
war on  drugs, investigate  violent crimes  and more.  Every time                                                               
they  contact   someone  they're  entrusted  with   personal  and                                                               
confidential  information. From  childhood people  are taught  to                                                               
trust police officers  and go to them for help.  That trust is an                                                               
awesome responsibility  that should be protected  with the utmost                                                               
care. When  someone impersonates a  police officer that  trust is                                                               
broken and the potential for  harm is great. Elevating this crime                                                               
to a  more serious charge  will possibly reduce the  frequency of                                                               
this crime.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:50:01 PM                                                                                                                    
BARRY SCHIMMACK said  he is a concerned citizen  from Chugiak who                                                               
supports HB  286. He  noted that  he submitted  written testimony                                                               
and then  relayed that  in Colorado  a bill  was passed  that has                                                               
specifics disallowing the display  of police lights. He described                                                               
the brutal murder of his Colorado  friend who was pulled over and                                                               
tricked into believing she was  with a legitimate police officer.                                                               
In  the  Anchorage   area  there  have  been   two  instances  of                                                               
impersonating an officer in the last  two years and as the father                                                               
of three  girls he is nervous  about that sort of  thing. Perhaps                                                               
the bill  needs more teeth, but  he supports it fully  because he                                                               
doesn't want  any Alaskan to  meet the  same fate as  his friend.                                                               
Knowing that  this now is a  felony crime hopefully will  have an                                                               
effect.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:56:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH moved  Amendment 1,  25-LS1169\A.1, Luckhaupt,  and                                                               
objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO: HB 286                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6, following "officer":                                                                                       
       Insert "and purports to exercise the authority of                                                                        
     a peace officer in relation to another person"                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH explained that the idea  is that you have to do some                                                               
act to  exercise the authority of  that badge, that car  or those                                                               
lights  to  interrupt someone's  life  and  get access  to  their                                                               
personal  information. That  steps  over the  line and  indicates                                                               
that you're a bad actor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:57:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked if there's  a reason for not adding this                                                               
to the other sections of statute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  said that's  a good  suggestion. Current  law talks                                                               
about doing  any act in that  capacity and that is  so broad that                                                               
it  would encompass  driving down  the road  in a  police car  or                                                               
walking  around in  a police  uniform.  But if  the committee  is                                                               
interested in  having all aspects  of impersonation,  he wouldn't                                                               
object. He asked  Mr. Luckhaupt why this idea  shouldn't apply to                                                               
both the B misdemeanor and the C felony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:58:50 PM                                                                                                                    
JERRY  LUCKHAUPT,  Legislative  Counsel,  Legislative  Legal  and                                                               
Research   Services   Division,   said  you   could   apply   any                                                               
requirements to  this particular act. The  existing statute talks                                                               
about pretending  to be a  public servant  and doing some  act in                                                               
that capacity.  In his  view just  dressing up  or driving  a car                                                               
that used  to be  a police  vehicle isn't  enough. You'd  have to                                                               
represent yourself as  a police officer and pull  someone over or                                                               
call them  and get  information about  another person.  Those are                                                               
examples of  how these  laws have  been used  in other  states to                                                               
sustain prosecutions.  There haven't been prosecutions  of exotic                                                               
dancers,  for example,  who  dress  up like  a  cop because  they                                                               
aren't performing an official act.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:01:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  THERRIAULT observed  that  the  amendment addresses  the                                                               
problem of pretending to be a  peace officer in Section 1, but it                                                               
doesn't address the problem of  impersonating a public servant in                                                               
Section 2.  He suggested the  committee consider  tightening that                                                               
section as well.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH said  it's  a  good suggestion  and  he'd like  the                                                               
committee to  take time to  mull the  question and work  with the                                                               
sponsor.  He held  HB  286  in committee  with  Amendment 1,  25-                                                               
LS1169\A.1, pending.                                                                                                            

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